email to Frank Visser:
A comment on: Winning the Integral Game?, by Scott Parker
Hi Frank, I'd like to comment on
Winning the Integral Game?, by Scott Parker.
as a "fan" of Ken Wilber and his work, and a subscriber to the IW newsletter, i continue to be confounded by what often purports to be "criticism" of Wilber/the man, his voluminous contribution to "science and letters," and the "cult" of Wilber. and this bewilderment prevails in reading Scott Parker's recent "Winning the Integral Game?"
let me say i am not a "thinker" or "essayist" of the caliber of the authors who are published at IW. i don't have the "chops." i am just a dweeb at the back of the lecture hall, here daring to stand up and make a couple of points.
let me say, also, there have been only two essays published at IW that i have read and considered in recent months -- this latest by Mr. Parker, and Jeff Meyerhoff's "Chapter 10."
in reading both, i could not escape the sense that each of these authors were, themselves, confronting little more than the limits of their own psyches, and the limits of their own personal "process" -- far, far from actually engaging in some dialectic about Wilber's AQAL/Integral model. seriously, both essays, in turn, might simply have been titled, "this is how I feel about Ken Wilber and his work." and the reader can't escape the sense of "serious" personal dissapointment, somehow in relation to Wilber, dragged along by both authors; foisted in Wilber's lap; and on an order like, "Ken declined to be the clown at my son's birthday party, and i can never forgive him." that's about the sum of what i "feel" left with, after reading these august "critiques."
what about THE TOOL -- the AQAL/Integral model -- that Wilber has put into our hands? you boys got some tweak, some improvement to suggest about that -- beyond all your mushy, personal confusion about whether you "like" Ken, along with the "sycophants" around him, or not?
Prometheus had some peccadillos, but gave us fire. Galileo made a pact with his "critics" to avoid getting burnt at the stake, but gave us the telescope. the Heavens have let fall into our midst but another [you pick the superlative], light-bearing, vision-focusing tool -- Wilber's "spectrum"/AQAL model. amen!
putting this tool-talk aside (something lacking in the "critiques" mentioned); recalling, too, that "the map is not the territory;" and if i dare further: what is the true Object of all this inquiring, this observing, this comparing of notes? is it not Reality Itself? and (here's the "money shot") what finer glimpse of Reality does the reader gain from wading through Parker's or Meyhoff's piece? little? none? hello!
Wilber's stuff focuses the senses, to say the least. Ken delivers.
Annie Lennox gave us more than Parker or Meyerhoff -- so much more -- and was simply more honest about purveying what she was purveying, crooning in "Why,"
"these are the contents of my head . . . and this is how i feel."
i do not get where Scott or Jeff have substantially added to our collective capacity (and longing) to See and to Know directly What Is.
Ken points straight at It.
rant ends.
thank you, Frank!
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go annie!]
Frank and Scott reply:
Hi robert,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings about IW and some of its authors. I can understand where you come from, but as I wrote recently:
Some have commented that criticizing Wilber for all those years is somehow a personal thing. Why can't I shut up, leave Wilber alone, and develop my own model? That, I think, misses the point of criticism in science and philosophy.
And Scott adds:
Most of the essays on IntegralWorld attempt to engage Wilber on a serious level. It is only by critiquing, clarifying, and offering alternatives that we can pursue the truth, which at the end of the day, is what we're after.
So, if you are “into” Wilber, and you are clearly, since he gives you “glimpses of the Real”, you will find all these critiques annoying. If you are into truth finding, whatever that may be, you will long for them.
Essays on IW have suggested more then tweaks when it comes to AQAL (read Smith, Edwards and others). These are not just “feelings” vented by disappointed fans (though that may always be a component, except for Meyerhoff). Strangely, all these suggestions have been perceived by Wilber as attacks on his integral fortress.
Therefore, I also regularly publish essays that comment on the culture that has grown around Wilber. Again, if you belong to that culture your will not appreciate these; if you no longer belong to that, you will recognize their points immediately.
I hold Wilber responsible for polarizing these two worlds, by giving a blanket dismissal of all IW essays (back in 2004) and his hysterical rants of 2006. I also will keep reminding him that, as Andy Smith once said, for serious academic discourse it just will not do to say to your critics: “You just don’t get it”.
I hope this makes any sense to you,
frank
and then i said:
how about if i were to say, fuck ken wilber and his model -- he is not the point: Reality is the Object of our concern, our investigations, our attention. we want Reality to drop her veils, hike up her skirt, and give us an eye-full, a mind-full, a heart-full of the Truth about Who we are/Where we are. maybe that is better summary of the point i was attempting to make in my previous note.
there are states and stages and stations of consciousness within which the Truth about Who we are is, i'll say, much more Obvious. and there are states and stages and stations of consciousness within which that Truth is hidden, unknown and unknowable. sadly, it is these latter states within which most of us abide, and toil, and persevere -- absence a clearer vision and understanding of the Truth. my own view is that the Truth misses us as much as we miss It -- like a wallflower at a school dance, waiting to get tapped on the shoulder. "yoohoo! over here!" like Muktananda said, "god forgets god so that god might seek god.," God [for want of a better term] Abides nonetheless; split off from [His] better half -- us -- infinitely patience, Gracious, ready to boogie! if we'd but notice!
Ken Wilber's work stradles the entire known "spectrum of consciousness." i have no doubt that he has, himself, ventured into those states of consciousness within which the Truth about Who we are is more readily observable. but, like i said, screw Ken -- he is not the point.
so much of living humanity, and so terribly much of humanity dead and gone, has toiled and cogitated and procreated as if asleep -- un-Awakened to the Truth about Who we are. but the odd individual, here, there, and there, has broken through -- "i have been to the mountaintop, and i have seen the other side!" it is my view, perhaps consonant with the "hundreth monkey theory," that these breakthroughs are increasingly less rare. (nod to all the stout and numinous souls, saints, sages, and mystics who have paved the way.) Ken Wilber's work is, among other things, a "herald" of this phenomenon.
whatever "truths" we come to absent "seeing the other side" are but partial truths.
if there was a question, between the lines, in what i wrote to you yesterday, it might have been: is your view informed by having "been to the mountaintop?" in Wilber-speak, have you tasted One Taste? per the Tibetans, have you apprehended "the Innate Great Perfection?" is sharing that view, reminding us, drawing us into and revealing that perspective, the aim of your "criticisms?" i'd say, that is really what my reading of your "critiques" left me wondering, and what this and yesterday's ramblings are about.
i have no doubt that is but a part of what Ken Wilber and his work is all about.
about "fortress integral:" enter any human community surrounding any extraordinary individual (or group of individuals) -- let's say a corporate board, a college faculty, an ashram -- and tell me you won't find similar intrigues and excesses of human nature there. to me, that's a sort of "losing sight of forest for the trees" kind of take on the boulder scene (which, i must say, i've never entered into to. would that i could!)
frank, scott, honestly, it wouldn't be hard for me to lob some gob of merely personal goo back in your direction -- let the volley begin! my take on your take on what he said . . .
i will conclude by saying, far from finding Mr. Wilber's "wyatt earpie" stuff "hyterical," i found it brilliant -- more good dope from the smartest man on the planet.
again, thanks!